[Scons-dev] SCons Wiki Status

Tue Jun 16 21:14:04 EDT 2015

Bill,

I'm running across some likes with missing pages.  Is there a way to find
out if they exit on the original server or not?

https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/AboutSCons

Links to page: GlobalView and ParallelBuilds

They may have been missing previously.

V/R,
William

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:14 PM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Kool
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> William,
>>
>> bitbucket's underlying method is a hg repo.
>> There's a link in the upper right labeled "
>> https://YOUR_USER_NAME@bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki"
>>
>> In general I expect 99.99% of files to be edited in the wiki on the web
>> page.
>> But for the case of this highly inlined set of pages (ReleaseHOWTO) the
>> only way I could figure to re-assemble them was with MarkdownPP.
>> At least for now.
>> I expect to get the pages down to a much smaller set and there after
>> (unless there's very good reason to do so), just use the web editor to make
>> changes.
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:01 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it going to be a general rule that all the Wiki pages edited outside
>>> of BitBucket or other the ones in that directory?
>>>
>>> If general user's need to make pull requests and such for this, then
>>> that could be an issue.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> This may be a silly question.  How does Bitbucket manage the wiki?  It
>>>> must be a repo.  Is it part of the SCons repo itself?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> William,
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like your changes were more correct than mine.
>>>>> I discarded my initial changes and redid the appropriate ones on top
>>>>> of yours.
>>>>> Take a look at
>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/ReleaseHOWTO/TipFinal  now
>>>>>
>>>>> pip install MarkdownPP
>>>>>
>>>>> Make changes to component files then:
>>>>> markdown-pp TipFinal.mdpp   -o TipFinal.md -e latexrender,youtubeembed
>>>>> ; hg ci -m "Updated TipFinal."; hg push
>>>>>
>>>>> Once we get these files all sorted it's likely a lot more will get
>>>>> discarded and it may not make sense to have files which are generated using
>>>>> inlines.  But for now it's simplest to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:34 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to overwrite if u need to.
>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2015 10:45 AM, "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like you made a lot of edits in that directory leading to
>>>>>>> conflict merge fun.. ahhh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trying MarkdownPP to handle inline pages.
>>>>>>>> Needs lots of edits to get it working but it seems to be getting
>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>> For now please don't touch the releaseHowTo to avoid conflicting
>>>>>>>> edits.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. Lots of old, obsolete info in here. Previously it was a
>>>>>>>> nightmare to edit with all the inline's..
>>>>>>>> Greg Noel must've been better able to deal with this than I as he
>>>>>>>> created it initially.
>>>>>>>> He clearly denormalized the whole set of documents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Might be a good idea to take a quick pass and delete all the SVN
>>>>>>>>> stuff.  No sense updating pages that will never be used again?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How are you handling the old inline page commands?  I don't think
>>>>>>>>>> that Markdown supports anything like that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:35 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of files in that directory :/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to split the work, I can take some.  Want to do them
>>>>>>>>>>> by letter ranges?  I don't know how far you have gotten.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on sorting the mess that is the releaseHowTo.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a convoluted set of moin includes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated SCons/Home to the previous FrontPage~!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, updated all direct links off the home page to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatted nicely: fixed links, tables, code blocks, etc.  Good start at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> least: https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/Home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't touch WikiUpgrade.  Figured I would leave that for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> powers that be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx Bill.  I just wanted to make sure another generate wasnt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to wipe out any efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2015 4:59 PM, "Bill Deegan" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please go ahead and fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we're missing content from when the files in bitbucket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki was generated I'll see if I can update just those pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:47 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want us to fix formatting issues as we find them or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are they generated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's weird. I forgot that Gary posted that stuff up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I cleanup formatting issues as I find them, or are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these pages being regenerated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have combed through several dozen pages and most of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them look right or with very minor formatting issues.  The links also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear to flow correctly between wiki pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's functional enough that I can use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Wiki browse shows all the pages.  For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every entry, I see a .moin extension and one without.  The without page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to render (reasonably correct) without modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these pages automatic conversions from moin to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bitbucket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't appear that bitbucket wiki is as fully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fledged as confluence, so I assume that page hierarchies are a no go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you need us to do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to clarify the status of the wiki:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCons is moving the wiki off of moin and onto some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other wiki system hosted an managed by someone else or to some static
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system we host that won't require this kind of attention going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reasoning for this is that our hosting provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeps taking the wiki offline as it has repeatedly been DOS'd and/or had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's security compromised. The project management doesn't see any benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to maintaining our own at this point where there are so many great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a couple iterations to find the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution so please be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now you can find the FAQ on the bitbucket wiki for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/FAQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll work on migrating pages from the old wiki to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a little time and the formatting my benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from help from the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a page or pages you would like to see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrated quickly, please let me know and I'll try to prioritize them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Deegan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Manager SCons project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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