[Scons-dev] SCons Wiki Status

Mon Jun 15 12:14:46 EDT 2015

Kool

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
wrote:

> William,
>
> bitbucket's underlying method is a hg repo.
> There's a link in the upper right labeled "
> https://YOUR_USER_NAME@bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki"
>
> In general I expect 99.99% of files to be edited in the wiki on the web
> page.
> But for the case of this highly inlined set of pages (ReleaseHOWTO) the
> only way I could figure to re-assemble them was with MarkdownPP.
> At least for now.
> I expect to get the pages down to a much smaller set and there after
> (unless there's very good reason to do so), just use the web editor to make
> changes.
>
> -Bill
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:01 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is it going to be a general rule that all the Wiki pages edited outside
>> of BitBucket or other the ones in that directory?
>>
>> If general user's need to make pull requests and such for this, then that
>> could be an issue.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This may be a silly question.  How does Bitbucket manage the wiki?  It
>>> must be a repo.  Is it part of the SCons repo itself?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> William,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like your changes were more correct than mine.
>>>> I discarded my initial changes and redid the appropriate ones on top of
>>>> yours.
>>>> Take a look at
>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/ReleaseHOWTO/TipFinal  now
>>>>
>>>> pip install MarkdownPP
>>>>
>>>> Make changes to component files then:
>>>> markdown-pp TipFinal.mdpp   -o TipFinal.md -e latexrender,youtubeembed
>>>> ; hg ci -m "Updated TipFinal."; hg push
>>>>
>>>> Once we get these files all sorted it's likely a lot more will get
>>>> discarded and it may not make sense to have files which are generated using
>>>> inlines.  But for now it's simplest to do so.
>>>>
>>>> -Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:34 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to overwrite if u need to.
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2015 10:45 AM, "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like you made a lot of edits in that directory leading to
>>>>>> conflict merge fun.. ahhh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :(
>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trying MarkdownPP to handle inline pages.
>>>>>>> Needs lots of edits to get it working but it seems to be getting
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> For now please don't touch the releaseHowTo to avoid conflicting
>>>>>>> edits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. Lots of old, obsolete info in here. Previously it was a
>>>>>>> nightmare to edit with all the inline's..
>>>>>>> Greg Noel must've been better able to deal with this than I as he
>>>>>>> created it initially.
>>>>>>> He clearly denormalized the whole set of documents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might be a good idea to take a quick pass and delete all the SVN
>>>>>>>> stuff.  No sense updating pages that will never be used again?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How are you handling the old inline page commands?  I don't think
>>>>>>>>> that Markdown supports anything like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:35 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lots of files in that directory :/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you want to split the work, I can take some.  Want to do them
>>>>>>>>>> by letter ranges?  I don't know how far you have gotten.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on sorting the mess that is the releaseHowTo.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a convoluted set of moin includes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated SCons/Home to the previous FrontPage~!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, updated all direct links off the home page to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> formatted nicely: fixed links, tables, code blocks, etc.  Good start at
>>>>>>>>>>>> least: https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/Home
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't touch WikiUpgrade.  Figured I would leave that for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> powers that be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx Bill.  I just wanted to make sure another generate wasnt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to wipe out any efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2015 4:59 PM, "Bill Deegan" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please go ahead and fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we're missing content from when the files in bitbucket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki was generated I'll see if I can update just those pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:47 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want us to fix formatting issues as we find them or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are they generated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's weird. I forgot that Gary posted that stuff up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I cleanup formatting issues as I find them, or are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these pages being regenerated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have combed through several dozen pages and most of them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look right or with very minor formatting issues.  The links also appear to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flow correctly between wiki pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's functional enough that I can use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Wiki browse shows all the pages.  For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every entry, I see a .moin extension and one without.  The without page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to render (reasonably correct) without modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these pages automatic conversions from moin to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bitbucket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't appear that bitbucket wiki is as fully fledged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as confluence, so I assume that page hierarchies are a no go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you need us to do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to clarify the status of the wiki:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCons is moving the wiki off of moin and onto some other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki system hosted an managed by someone else or to some static system we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host that won't require this kind of attention going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reasoning for this is that our hosting provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeps taking the wiki offline as it has repeatedly been DOS'd and/or had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's security compromised. The project management doesn't see any benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to maintaining our own at this point where there are so many great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a couple iterations to find the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution so please be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now you can find the FAQ on the bitbucket wiki for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/FAQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll work on migrating pages from the old wiki to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a little time and the formatting my benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from help from the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a page or pages you would like to see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrated quickly, please let me know and I'll try to prioritize them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Deegan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Manager SCons project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Scons-dev mailing list
>>>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Scons-dev mailing list
>> Scons-dev at scons.org
>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Scons-dev mailing list
> Scons-dev at scons.org
> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/scons-dev/attachments/20150615/87958527/attachment-0001.html>