[Scons-dev] SCons Wiki Status

[Bill Deegan]

William,

bitbucket's underlying method is a hg repo.
There's a link in the upper right labeled "
https://YOUR_USER_NAME@bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki"

In general I expect 99.99% of files to be edited in the wiki on the web
page.
But for the case of this highly inlined set of pages (ReleaseHOWTO) the
only way I could figure to re-assemble them was with MarkdownPP.
At least for now.
I expect to get the pages down to a much smaller set and there after
(unless there's very good reason to do so), just use the web editor to make
changes.

-Bill

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:01 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is it going to be a general rule that all the Wiki pages edited outside of
> BitBucket or other the ones in that directory?
>
> If general user's need to make pull requests and such for this, then that
> could be an issue.
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This may be a silly question.  How does Bitbucket manage the wiki?  It
>> must be a repo.  Is it part of the SCons repo itself?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> William,
>>>
>>> Looks like your changes were more correct than mine.
>>> I discarded my initial changes and redid the appropriate ones on top of
>>> yours.
>>> Take a look at
>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/ReleaseHOWTO/TipFinal  now
>>>
>>> pip install MarkdownPP
>>>
>>> Make changes to component files then:
>>> markdown-pp TipFinal.mdpp   -o TipFinal.md -e latexrender,youtubeembed ;
>>> hg ci -m "Updated TipFinal."; hg push
>>>
>>> Once we get these files all sorted it's likely a lot more will get
>>> discarded and it may not make sense to have files which are generated using
>>> inlines.  But for now it's simplest to do so.
>>>
>>> -Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:34 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Feel free to overwrite if u need to.
>>>> On Jun 15, 2015 10:45 AM, "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> William,
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like you made a lot of edits in that directory leading to
>>>>> conflict merge fun.. ahhh
>>>>>
>>>>> :(
>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trying MarkdownPP to handle inline pages.
>>>>>> Needs lots of edits to get it working but it seems to be getting
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> For now please don't touch the releaseHowTo to avoid conflicting
>>>>>> edits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Lots of old, obsolete info in here. Previously it was a
>>>>>> nightmare to edit with all the inline's..
>>>>>> Greg Noel must've been better able to deal with this than I as he
>>>>>> created it initially.
>>>>>> He clearly denormalized the whole set of documents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Might be a good idea to take a quick pass and delete all the SVN
>>>>>>> stuff.  No sense updating pages that will never be used again?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How are you handling the old inline page commands?  I don't think
>>>>>>>> that Markdown supports anything like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:35 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lots of files in that directory :/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want to split the work, I can take some.  Want to do them
>>>>>>>>> by letter ranges?  I don't know how far you have gotten.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on sorting the mess that is the releaseHowTo.
>>>>>>>>>> It's a convoluted set of moin includes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Updated SCons/Home to the previous FrontPage~!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, updated all direct links off the home page to be formatted
>>>>>>>>>>> nicely: fixed links, tables, code blocks, etc.  Good start at least:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/Home
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't touch WikiUpgrade.  Figured I would leave that for the
>>>>>>>>>>> powers that be.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx Bill.  I just wanted to make sure another generate wasnt
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to wipe out any efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2015 4:59 PM, "Bill Deegan" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please go ahead and fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we're missing content from when the files in bitbucket wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was generated I'll see if I can update just those pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:47 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want us to fix formatting issues as we find them or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are they generated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's weird. I forgot that Gary posted that stuff up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I cleanup formatting issues as I find them, or are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these pages being regenerated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have combed through several dozen pages and most of them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look right or with very minor formatting issues.  The links also appear to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flow correctly between wiki pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's functional enough that I can use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Wiki browse shows all the pages.  For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every entry, I see a .moin extension and one without.  The without page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to render (reasonably correct) without modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these pages automatic conversions from moin to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bitbucket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't appear that bitbucket wiki is as fully fledged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as confluence, so I assume that page hierarchies are a no go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you need us to do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to clarify the status of the wiki:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCons is moving the wiki off of moin and onto some other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki system hosted an managed by someone else or to some static system we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host that won't require this kind of attention going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reasoning for this is that our hosting provider keeps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking the wiki offline as it has repeatedly been DOS'd and/or had it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security compromised. The project management doesn't see any benefit to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining our own at this point where there are so many great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a couple iterations to find the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution so please be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now you can find the FAQ on the bitbucket wiki for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/FAQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll work on migrating pages from the old wiki to the new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a little time and the formatting my benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from help from the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a page or pages you would like to see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrated quickly, please let me know and I'll try to prioritize them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Deegan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Manager SCons project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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