[Scons-dev] SCons Wiki Status

Mon Jun 15 12:01:00 EDT 2015

Is it going to be a general rule that all the Wiki pages edited outside of
BitBucket or other the ones in that directory?

If general user's need to make pull requests and such for this, then that
could be an issue.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This may be a silly question.  How does Bitbucket manage the wiki?  It
> must be a repo.  Is it part of the SCons repo itself?
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> William,
>>
>> Looks like your changes were more correct than mine.
>> I discarded my initial changes and redid the appropriate ones on top of
>> yours.
>> Take a look at
>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/ReleaseHOWTO/TipFinal  now
>>
>> pip install MarkdownPP
>>
>> Make changes to component files then:
>> markdown-pp TipFinal.mdpp   -o TipFinal.md -e latexrender,youtubeembed ;
>> hg ci -m "Updated TipFinal."; hg push
>>
>> Once we get these files all sorted it's likely a lot more will get
>> discarded and it may not make sense to have files which are generated using
>> inlines.  But for now it's simplest to do so.
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:34 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Feel free to overwrite if u need to.
>>> On Jun 15, 2015 10:45 AM, "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> William,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like you made a lot of edits in that directory leading to
>>>> conflict merge fun.. ahhh
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>> -Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> William,
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying MarkdownPP to handle inline pages.
>>>>> Needs lots of edits to get it working but it seems to be getting there.
>>>>> For now please don't touch the releaseHowTo to avoid conflicting edits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Lots of old, obsolete info in here. Previously it was a nightmare
>>>>> to edit with all the inline's..
>>>>> Greg Noel must've been better able to deal with this than I as he
>>>>> created it initially.
>>>>> He clearly denormalized the whole set of documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Might be a good idea to take a quick pass and delete all the SVN
>>>>>> stuff.  No sense updating pages that will never be used again?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How are you handling the old inline page commands?  I don't think
>>>>>>> that Markdown supports anything like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:35 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lots of files in that directory :/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you want to split the work, I can take some.  Want to do them by
>>>>>>>> letter ranges?  I don't know how far you have gotten.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm working on sorting the mess that is the releaseHowTo.
>>>>>>>>> It's a convoluted set of moin includes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Updated SCons/Home to the previous FrontPage~!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, updated all direct links off the home page to be formatted
>>>>>>>>>> nicely: fixed links, tables, code blocks, etc.  Good start at least:
>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/Home
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Didn't touch WikiUpgrade.  Figured I would leave that for the
>>>>>>>>>> powers that be.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thx Bill.  I just wanted to make sure another generate wasnt
>>>>>>>>>>> going to wipe out any efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2015 4:59 PM, "Bill Deegan" <
>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please go ahead and fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we're missing content from when the files in bitbucket wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>> was generated I'll see if I can update just those pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:47 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want us to fix formatting issues as we find them or are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they generated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's weird. I forgot that Gary posted that stuff up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I cleanup formatting issues as I find them, or are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these pages being regenerated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have combed through several dozen pages and most of them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look right or with very minor formatting issues.  The links also appear to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flow correctly between wiki pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's functional enough that I can use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Wiki browse shows all the pages.  For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every entry, I see a .moin extension and one without.  The without page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to render (reasonably correct) without modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these pages automatic conversions from moin to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bitbucket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't appear that bitbucket wiki is as fully fledged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as confluence, so I assume that page hierarchies are a no go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you need us to do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to clarify the status of the wiki:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCons is moving the wiki off of moin and onto some other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki system hosted an managed by someone else or to some static system we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host that won't require this kind of attention going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reasoning for this is that our hosting provider keeps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking the wiki offline as it has repeatedly been DOS'd and/or had it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security compromised. The project management doesn't see any benefit to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining our own at this point where there are so many great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a couple iterations to find the right solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so please be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now you can find the FAQ on the bitbucket wiki for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/FAQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll work on migrating pages from the old wiki to the new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a little time and the formatting my benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from help from the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a page or pages you would like to see migrated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly, please let me know and I'll try to prioritize them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Deegan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Manager SCons project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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