[Scons-dev] SCons Wiki Status

William Blevins wblevins001 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 15 11:56:12 EDT 2015


This may be a silly question.  How does Bitbucket manage the wiki?  It must
be a repo.  Is it part of the SCons repo itself?

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
wrote:

> William,
>
> Looks like your changes were more correct than mine.
> I discarded my initial changes and redid the appropriate ones on top of
> yours.
> Take a look at
> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/ReleaseHOWTO/TipFinal  now
>
> pip install MarkdownPP
>
> Make changes to component files then:
> markdown-pp TipFinal.mdpp   -o TipFinal.md -e latexrender,youtubeembed ;
> hg ci -m "Updated TipFinal."; hg push
>
> Once we get these files all sorted it's likely a lot more will get
> discarded and it may not make sense to have files which are generated using
> inlines.  But for now it's simplest to do so.
>
> -Bill
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:34 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Feel free to overwrite if u need to.
>> On Jun 15, 2015 10:45 AM, "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> William,
>>>
>>> Looks like you made a lot of edits in that directory leading to conflict
>>> merge fun.. ahhh
>>>
>>> :(
>>> -Bill
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> William,
>>>>
>>>> Trying MarkdownPP to handle inline pages.
>>>> Needs lots of edits to get it working but it seems to be getting there.
>>>> For now please don't touch the releaseHowTo to avoid conflicting edits.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Lots of old, obsolete info in here. Previously it was a nightmare
>>>> to edit with all the inline's..
>>>> Greg Noel must've been better able to deal with this than I as he
>>>> created it initially.
>>>> He clearly denormalized the whole set of documents.
>>>>
>>>> -Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, William Blevins <
>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Might be a good idea to take a quick pass and delete all the SVN
>>>>> stuff.  No sense updating pages that will never be used again?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How are you handling the old inline page commands?  I don't think
>>>>>> that Markdown supports anything like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:35 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lots of files in that directory :/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to split the work, I can take some.  Want to do them by
>>>>>>> letter ranges?  I don't know how far you have gotten.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm working on sorting the mess that is the releaseHowTo.
>>>>>>>> It's a convoluted set of moin includes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Updated SCons/Home to the previous FrontPage~!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, updated all direct links off the home page to be formatted
>>>>>>>>> nicely: fixed links, tables, code blocks, etc.  Good start at least:
>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/Home
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Didn't touch WikiUpgrade.  Figured I would leave that for the
>>>>>>>>> powers that be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thx Bill.  I just wanted to make sure another generate wasnt
>>>>>>>>>> going to wipe out any efforts.
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2015 4:59 PM, "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please go ahead and fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>> If we're missing content from when the files in bitbucket wiki
>>>>>>>>>>> was generated I'll see if I can update just those pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:47 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want us to fix formatting issues as we find them or are
>>>>>>>>>>>> they generated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's weird. I forgot that Gary posted that stuff up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I cleanup formatting issues as I find them, or are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these pages being regenerated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have combed through several dozen pages and most of them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look right or with very minor formatting issues.  The links also appear to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flow correctly between wiki pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's functional enough that I can use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Wiki browse shows all the pages.  For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every entry, I see a .moin extension and one without.  The without page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to render (reasonably correct) without modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these pages automatic conversions from moin to bitbucket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't appear that bitbucket wiki is as fully fledged as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence, so I assume that page hierarchies are a no go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you need us to do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to clarify the status of the wiki:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCons is moving the wiki off of moin and onto some other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki system hosted an managed by someone else or to some static system we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host that won't require this kind of attention going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reasoning for this is that our hosting provider keeps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking the wiki offline as it has repeatedly been DOS'd and/or had it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security compromised. The project management doesn't see any benefit to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining our own at this point where there are so many great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a couple iterations to find the right solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so please be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now you can find the FAQ on the bitbucket wiki for scons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/FAQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll work on migrating pages from the old wiki to the new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a little time and the formatting my benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from help from the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a page or pages you would like to see migrated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly, please let me know and I'll try to prioritize them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Deegan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Manager SCons project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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