[Scons-dev] SCons Wiki Status

Thu Jun 18 02:28:43 EDT 2015

At this point the wiki pages should be looking good across the board.  I
have combed through all the root dir pages.  I still need to revisit a
couple with images, but all thats left are the subdirs (many are done or no
op) and pages requiring imports.

V/R,
William

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:14 PM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I'm running across some likes with missing pages.  Is there a way to find
> out if they exit on the original server or not?
>
> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/AboutSCons
>
> Links to page: GlobalView and ParallelBuilds
>
> They may have been missing previously.
>
> V/R,
> William
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:14 PM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Kool
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> William,
>>>
>>> bitbucket's underlying method is a hg repo.
>>> There's a link in the upper right labeled "
>>> https://YOUR_USER_NAME@bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki"
>>>
>>> In general I expect 99.99% of files to be edited in the wiki on the web
>>> page.
>>> But for the case of this highly inlined set of pages (ReleaseHOWTO) the
>>> only way I could figure to re-assemble them was with MarkdownPP.
>>> At least for now.
>>> I expect to get the pages down to a much smaller set and there after
>>> (unless there's very good reason to do so), just use the web editor to make
>>> changes.
>>>
>>> -Bill
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:01 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it going to be a general rule that all the Wiki pages edited outside
>>>> of BitBucket or other the ones in that directory?
>>>>
>>>> If general user's need to make pull requests and such for this, then
>>>> that could be an issue.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This may be a silly question.  How does Bitbucket manage the wiki?  It
>>>>> must be a repo.  Is it part of the SCons repo itself?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like your changes were more correct than mine.
>>>>>> I discarded my initial changes and redid the appropriate ones on top
>>>>>> of yours.
>>>>>> Take a look at
>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/ReleaseHOWTO/TipFinal  now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pip install MarkdownPP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make changes to component files then:
>>>>>> markdown-pp TipFinal.mdpp   -o TipFinal.md -e
>>>>>> latexrender,youtubeembed ; hg ci -m "Updated TipFinal."; hg push
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once we get these files all sorted it's likely a lot more will get
>>>>>> discarded and it may not make sense to have files which are generated using
>>>>>> inlines.  But for now it's simplest to do so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:34 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to overwrite if u need to.
>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2015 10:45 AM, "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like you made a lot of edits in that directory leading to
>>>>>>>> conflict merge fun.. ahhh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trying MarkdownPP to handle inline pages.
>>>>>>>>> Needs lots of edits to get it working but it seems to be getting
>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>> For now please don't touch the releaseHowTo to avoid conflicting
>>>>>>>>> edits.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. Lots of old, obsolete info in here. Previously it was a
>>>>>>>>> nightmare to edit with all the inline's..
>>>>>>>>> Greg Noel must've been better able to deal with this than I as he
>>>>>>>>> created it initially.
>>>>>>>>> He clearly denormalized the whole set of documents.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Might be a good idea to take a quick pass and delete all the SVN
>>>>>>>>>> stuff.  No sense updating pages that will never be used again?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How are you handling the old inline page commands?  I don't
>>>>>>>>>>> think that Markdown supports anything like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:35 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of files in that directory :/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to split the work, I can take some.  Want to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> them by letter ranges?  I don't know how far you have gotten.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on sorting the mess that is the releaseHowTo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a convoluted set of moin includes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated SCons/Home to the previous FrontPage~!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, updated all direct links off the home page to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatted nicely: fixed links, tables, code blocks, etc.  Good start at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least: https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/Home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't touch WikiUpgrade.  Figured I would leave that for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powers that be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx Bill.  I just wanted to make sure another generate wasnt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to wipe out any efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2015 4:59 PM, "Bill Deegan" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please go ahead and fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we're missing content from when the files in bitbucket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki was generated I'll see if I can update just those pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:47 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want us to fix formatting issues as we find them or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are they generated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's weird. I forgot that Gary posted that stuff up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I cleanup formatting issues as I find them, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are these pages being regenerated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have combed through several dozen pages and most of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them look right or with very minor formatting issues.  The links also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear to flow correctly between wiki pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's functional enough that I can use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Wiki browse shows all the pages.  For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every entry, I see a .moin extension and one without.  The without page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to render (reasonably correct) without modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these pages automatic conversions from moin to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bitbucket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't appear that bitbucket wiki is as fully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fledged as confluence, so I assume that page hierarchies are a no go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you need us to do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to clarify the status of the wiki:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCons is moving the wiki off of moin and onto some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other wiki system hosted an managed by someone else or to some static
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system we host that won't require this kind of attention going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reasoning for this is that our hosting provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeps taking the wiki offline as it has repeatedly been DOS'd and/or had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's security compromised. The project management doesn't see any benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to maintaining our own at this point where there are so many great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a couple iterations to find the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution so please be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now you can find the FAQ on the bitbucket wiki for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/FAQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll work on migrating pages from the old wiki to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a little time and the formatting my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefit from help from the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a page or pages you would like to see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrated quickly, please let me know and I'll try to prioritize them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Deegan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Manager SCons project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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