[Scons-dev] D tool development workflow

[Bill Deegan]

Russel,

At present I'm spending all my available energy and time on getting py2+py3
working.
Once that is done, then we can look at migrating the bug tracker, but not
before.

That said, I'm thinking post 3 a migration to github could have some real
value.
(And git, I'm tired of using HG on only this project)

Also note that buildbot (our current ci http://buildbot.scons.org/ ) is
capable of pushing ci status to bitbucket (and github as well).  Travis-CI
builds work for plain python builds, but very unlikely the VM/Containers
the tests are run in will have many of the installed tools we use in many
tests, and also most likely not have any MSVS versions installed..

-Bill

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:57 AM, Russel Winder <russel at winder.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 2017-04-19 at 10:42 -0700, Bill Deegan wrote:
> > I appreciate your point of view.
>
> I think we all agree on the principle, but the details are getting in
> the way of practicality.
>
> > But for many years now it has been separate.
>
> And I suspect only the stalwarts and old hands even go there.
>
> > We will migrate at some point.
>
> I have to say, at this point in time, I have some doubts. I would like
> to be proved wrong.
>
> I think we have had two goes round this, and in the end no-one has had
> the energy to push past all the trivial niggles that people put forward
> to try and stiffle the move.
>
> > For the time being, it's really not such a huge burden to login to
> > tigris
> > to file a bug.
>
> For me arguably not. For D users used to GitHub, I suspect it may be. I
> can imagine them saying "The repo is on GitHub why the #### do I have
> to go to some unheard of closing down system, sign up and login, to
> submit bug reports." Even were I to move the repo to BitBucket – and if
> I can work out how to get the equivalent of Travis-CI working from a
> Git repository on BitBucket, I'm happy to do that – the same argument
> regarding issues and Tigris would apply. I will though look to move to
> BitBucket on the assumption SCons is staying there – which seems
> sensible, at least in the short term.
>
> Clearly no-one has the energy or resource to be tackling the "transfer
> the issue handler" just now. But I can imagine the very act of
> suggesting we get stuck into this will bring up the arguments about how
> the BitBucket issue handler is rubbish, and all actual progress will be
> stiffled. What is needed here is action ignoring the words. Someone
> already had at least part of a "get stuff out of Tigris and put it in
> BitBucket". I suggest we update it, do any further tweaks, run it,
> switch to BitBucket and leave ourselves open to a better workflow. And
> ignore the moans from people who like the Tigris system.
>
> --
> Russel.
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