[Scons-dev] SCons developer DVCS survey

[William Blevins]

I think we have been advocating moving to Git from Mercurial. This does not
mean moving from BitBucket to Github.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Jonathon Reinhart <
jonathon.reinhart at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know it's been stated that SCons wouldn't have to migrate the issue
> tracker to GitHub as well. To any of those advocating for using GitHub for
> code but not for issues, I'm just curious: do any of you use GitHub issue
> tracking and pull requests frequently?  I find the integration to be very
> convenient and helpful (namely auto-cross references from code and PRs to
> issues and vice-versa).  TBH I'm not sure why you'd want to use anything
> else (other than the pain of migration of existing images).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jonathon
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:29 PM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've used Jira before.  I think it's alright, but perhaps a bit heavy
>> weight. I'm up for anything as long as we are willing to commit to better
>> task prioritization. I think bug triages stopped before I got here :)
>>
>> V/R,
>> William
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> <random thoughts on bug trackers>
>>> Honestly I'm surprised how much bug trackers are a religious
>>> discussion...
>>> For decade plus I've deployed bugzilla at almost every client.
>>>
>>> Jira seems to be the new hotness.
>>> And of course there seem to many also ran's, and those integrated with
>>> DVCS hosting (none of which are as good as bugzilla (IMHO))
>>> </random thoughts on bug trackers>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Atlassian has Jira, so they aren't going to allow of easy integration
>>>> of 3rd-party trackers.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Russel,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why stop looking at tigris?
>>>>>
>>>>> One other bonus to github is integration with things like readthedocs,
>>>>> and other third party tools is either better or doesn't exist for bitbucket
>>>>> (at least last time I looked).
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:51 AM, Russel Winder <russel at winder.org.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 23:12 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>>>>>> > I am 1 of 2 people out of 11 who still prefer Mercurial. OMG. =)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I wonder why Mercurial is considered bad. Is it just a poor user
>>>>>> > experience with BitBucket or there is something more in it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a lot about Mercurial (and Bazaar) that I like, especially
>>>>>> command lines, etc. Despite years of improvement, the Git command line
>>>>>> still seems something like a Perl script designed to replicate line
>>>>>> noise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However for me, the Git wins are explicit remote tracking branches, so
>>>>>> that you can see things in gitg, and the transitory nature of feature
>>>>>> branches. I think I am echoing Bill here, but the fact that branch
>>>>>> identifiers are immutable in Mercurial means that Bazaar wins. And
>>>>>> Bazaar effectively got killed off when Canonical pulled the finance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still use Mercurial somewhat for personal projects, but these are
>>>>>> default branch only repositories. Much as I really dislike Git in so
>>>>>> many ways, it is a better tool for serendipitous, feature branch
>>>>>> based,
>>>>>> multi-repository working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the GitHub vs BitBucket thing: now that BitBucket has switched
>>>>>> to being a Git resource rather than a Mercurial resource, it is purely
>>>>>> down to whether BitBucket pull requests system is better or worse than
>>>>>> the GitHub one, and most importantly whether being on BitBucket or
>>>>>> GitHub is better for marketing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apart from not working on Python 3.4+ as well as Python 2.7, SCons
>>>>>> biggest problem is marketing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for issues, I'm afraid I've stopped even looking at Tigris.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Russel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =============================================================================
>>>>>> Dr Russel Winder      t: +44 20 7585 2200   voip:
>>>>>> sip:russel.winder at ekiga.net
>>>>>> 41 Buckmaster Road    m: +44 7770 465 077   xmpp:
>>>>>> russel at winder.org.uk
>>>>>> London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk  skype: russel_winder
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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