[Scons-dev] SCons Wiki Status

Thu Jun 18 09:53:57 EDT 2015

Bill,

I still need to do the "import" pages; I figure I'll try to do them as a
batch once all the pages are not malformed.

V/R,
William

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
wrote:

> I'll try to take a look for these pages today.
>
> -Bill
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:14 PM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I'm running across some likes with missing pages.  Is there a way to find
>> out if they exit on the original server or not?
>>
>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/AboutSCons
>>
>> Links to page: GlobalView and ParallelBuilds
>>
>> They may have been missing previously.
>>
>> V/R,
>> William
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:14 PM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kool
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> William,
>>>>
>>>> bitbucket's underlying method is a hg repo.
>>>> There's a link in the upper right labeled "
>>>> https://YOUR_USER_NAME@bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki"
>>>>
>>>> In general I expect 99.99% of files to be edited in the wiki on the web
>>>> page.
>>>> But for the case of this highly inlined set of pages (ReleaseHOWTO) the
>>>> only way I could figure to re-assemble them was with MarkdownPP.
>>>> At least for now.
>>>> I expect to get the pages down to a much smaller set and there after
>>>> (unless there's very good reason to do so), just use the web editor to make
>>>> changes.
>>>>
>>>> -Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:01 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it going to be a general rule that all the Wiki pages edited
>>>>> outside of BitBucket or other the ones in that directory?
>>>>>
>>>>> If general user's need to make pull requests and such for this, then
>>>>> that could be an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This may be a silly question.  How does Bitbucket manage the wiki?
>>>>>> It must be a repo.  Is it part of the SCons repo itself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like your changes were more correct than mine.
>>>>>>> I discarded my initial changes and redid the appropriate ones on top
>>>>>>> of yours.
>>>>>>> Take a look at
>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/ReleaseHOWTO/TipFinal  now
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pip install MarkdownPP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make changes to component files then:
>>>>>>> markdown-pp TipFinal.mdpp   -o TipFinal.md -e
>>>>>>> latexrender,youtubeembed ; hg ci -m "Updated TipFinal."; hg push
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once we get these files all sorted it's likely a lot more will get
>>>>>>> discarded and it may not make sense to have files which are generated using
>>>>>>> inlines.  But for now it's simplest to do so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:34 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Feel free to overwrite if u need to.
>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2015 10:45 AM, "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looks like you made a lot of edits in that directory leading to
>>>>>>>>> conflict merge fun.. ahhh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trying MarkdownPP to handle inline pages.
>>>>>>>>>> Needs lots of edits to get it working but it seems to be getting
>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>> For now please don't touch the releaseHowTo to avoid conflicting
>>>>>>>>>> edits.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Lots of old, obsolete info in here. Previously it was a
>>>>>>>>>> nightmare to edit with all the inline's..
>>>>>>>>>> Greg Noel must've been better able to deal with this than I as he
>>>>>>>>>> created it initially.
>>>>>>>>>> He clearly denormalized the whole set of documents.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Might be a good idea to take a quick pass and delete all the SVN
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff.  No sense updating pages that will never be used again?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How are you handling the old inline page commands?  I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> think that Markdown supports anything like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:35 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of files in that directory :/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to split the work, I can take some.  Want to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them by letter ranges?  I don't know how far you have gotten.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on sorting the mess that is the releaseHowTo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a convoluted set of moin includes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated SCons/Home to the previous FrontPage~!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, updated all direct links off the home page to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formatted nicely: fixed links, tables, code blocks, etc.  Good start at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least: https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/Home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't touch WikiUpgrade.  Figured I would leave that for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the powers that be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx Bill.  I just wanted to make sure another generate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasnt going to wipe out any efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2015 4:59 PM, "Bill Deegan" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please go ahead and fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we're missing content from when the files in bitbucket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki was generated I'll see if I can update just those pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:47 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want us to fix formatting issues as we find them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or are they generated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's weird. I forgot that Gary posted that stuff up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I cleanup formatting issues as I find them, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are these pages being regenerated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have combed through several dozen pages and most of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them look right or with very minor formatting issues.  The links also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear to flow correctly between wiki pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's functional enough that I can use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:56 AM, William Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wblevins001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Wiki browse shows all the pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For every entry, I see a .moin extension and one without.  The without page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to render (reasonably correct) without modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these pages automatic conversions from moin to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bitbucket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't appear that bitbucket wiki is as fully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fledged as confluence, so I assume that page hierarchies are a no go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you need us to do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to clarify the status of the wiki:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCons is moving the wiki off of moin and onto some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other wiki system hosted an managed by someone else or to some static
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system we host that won't require this kind of attention going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reasoning for this is that our hosting provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeps taking the wiki offline as it has repeatedly been DOS'd and/or had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's security compromised. The project management doesn't see any benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to maintaining our own at this point where there are so many great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a couple iterations to find the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution so please be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now you can find the FAQ on the bitbucket wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for scons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/FAQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll work on migrating pages from the old wiki to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may take a little time and the formatting my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefit from help from the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a page or pages you would like to see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrated quickly, please let me know and I'll try to prioritize them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Deegan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Manager SCons project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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