[Scons-dev] Cross-language support

Wed Jul 29 11:31:28 EDT 2015

Jason,

On a related note, I have added some more information to the related pull
request comments.  See if those provide more enlightenment?

V/R,
William

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:30 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Jason,
>
> I'm not sure.  I remember that you were helping me look into the recursive
> Install behavior.  Plus, possible parts incompatibility?
>
> I haven't ran the tests on a windows box at all.  I don't expect anything
> new, but it should be done before it ships :)
>
> V/R,
> William
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Jason Kenny <dragon512 at live.com> wrote:
>
>>   Which MS toolchain on windows do we need tested? I can do a test run
>> this afternoon.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>  *From:* William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:11 AM
>> *To:* SCons developer list <scons-dev at scons.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Scons-dev] Cross-language support
>>
>>   Happy with it*
>>
>> Until the review is complete, and I can perhaps get a few more guinea
>> pigs to try it out, it's hard to make a concrete projection. I have 3 items
>> listed out that need to be given a thumbs up/down at a minimum:
>>
>> * Item #1 is still mostly outstanding.  I'm not sure how to address,
>> please see the discussion Jason and I started a few weeks ago under the
>> pull request comments.
>>
>> * Item #2 requires no changes (to my knowledge), but someone with more QT
>> knowledge may say otherwise.
>>
>> * I may already have most of the patch for Item #3 (IE. no scanner for
>> key) based on today's feedback.
>>
>> I also still need to request test runs on Windows, and for toolchains
>> that I may not have installed or instructions to install them (EG. D).
>>
>> V/R,
>> William
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 1:58 AM, William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As soon as we are happen with it :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>   O.k. let me push 2.3.5 with the visual studio 2015 stuff.
>>>> Then we'll changed to 2.4 merge slots. stabilize. release.
>>>> Then this code? (2.5?)
>>>>
>>>> -Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Jason Kenny <dragon512 at live.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   I have been using the slots drop for a while with Parts. I think it
>>>>> is ready. It does have a notable improvement in speed and memory size. I
>>>>> would before getting this out as officially earlier than later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* William Blevins <wblevins001 at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:31 PM
>>>>> *To:* Dirk Bächle <dl9obn at darc.de> ; SCons developer list
>>>>> <scons-dev at scons.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Scons-dev] Cross-language support
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Dirk Bächle <tshortik at gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry for chiming in so late.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28.07.2015 23:44, Gary Oberbrunner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, that's how we've done it in the past.  Sounds like doing it at
>>>>>>> the same time as slots would be perfect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doing this in parallel with the "slots" change sounds good to me too.
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not opposed to releasing in the same update as slots, but since
>>>>> the cross language code reviews haven't been finished, I don't want to
>>>>> delay slots since it is ready now.
>>>>>
>>>>> The pessimist in me as sees doing two major enhancements in the same
>>>>> release as higher risk; I don't foresee any issues, but its worth the
>>>>> thought if the release overhead isn't too bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Bill Deegan <
>>>>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com <mailto:bill at baddogconsulting.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Gary,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     For such a change we should bump the second digit?
>>>>>>>     2.4?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     I agree we should not turn down a change because it will cause
>>>>>>> rebuilds where the past didn't as long as it is now more correct
>>>>>>>     (which it should be with this change).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, "forward" is the way to go. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Also agree we should be verbose in our notification of the
>>>>>>> impacts of the new change to avoid (as much as we can) "surprises".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think (better: hope) we did a good enough job for the "slots" stuff
>>>>>> on this. For the scanner changes, I see them more like a fix...so a single
>>>>>> announcement should be sufficient?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, and just in case I haven't done so already, I'd like to
>>>>>> thank William for all the work he's done on this issue. I couldn't help as
>>>>>> much as I would've liked, but with Gary's support you tackled this down and
>>>>>> brought it to a good end. Kudos to you...bravo!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Truly appreciated.  I have spent a lot of time on this issue despite
>>>>> what one might expect from the number of lines of code.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was honestly my first time working in a "real" python environment
>>>>> outside of scripting, and the SCons code base is rather complex.  It
>>>>> instills me greater appreciation for the work that has already done.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also want to thank everyone here for their help past and future, but
>>>>> don't pat me on the back until its done. I might get lazy :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dirk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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