[reportlab-users] ReportLab Developer Network - RFC

Ian Sparks reportlab-users@reportlab.com
Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:49:41 -0500


>>
we're going to put up the prices of our commercial=20
software quite a lot to focus strictly on Enterprise
customers through a chain of resellers and integrators,=20
and on licensing our formatting technology.
<<

Having looked at the PDF market I've always felt that the ReportLab =
toolkit was under-priced.

Having said that, one of the reasons I stick to the OS toolkit is that =
our company is an ASP with a one-server per client model. Each client =
may be using only 10% of the capability of their server but they are =
paranoid about data-crossover. Also our contracts are often written so =
that if we go down the client can pull their server out of the rack and =
continue without us - this rather puts a damper on sharing a server for =
any "central service" such as PDF generation. I don't even want to think =
about the fees to put RML2PDF on 40-50 servers, it would certainly put =
our CFO off his golf-swing.

The other reason of course is that we're incredibly cheap - partly =
because we've invested in expensive "Enterprise Tools" before and come =
to regret our reliance on them.

It may be peverse but if you turned up at our door with a free copy of =
your commercial tools I'd bin it immediately -> The OS ReportLab toolkit =
is already addictive, I fear the commercial tools are PDF Crack and we =
can't afford the habit.

I think the Developer Network is a very good idea for ReportLab the =
company and by extension the OS toolkit. I don't want/can't afford to be =
part of it but will continue to evangelize the toolkit (presentation =
next month to a Python/Zope User Group) and contribute where possible.

Pleased to hear ReportLab is doing well. Hope you guys make the billions =
you deserve.

- Ian Sparks.







-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Robinson [mailto:andy@reportlab.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:52 PM
To: reportlab-users@reportlab.com
Subject: [reportlab-users] ReportLab Developer Network - RFC


Hi everyone.  I'd like some feedback on an important=20
idea regarding our commercial software which I hope
will interest several people in this group.  It is=20
just an idea at this stage.

--
In the last year we put 90% or more of our effort
into customer projects.  We survived the recession
and paid debts off, even added a lot of new=20
functionality to our commercial products and some
to the free ones, but generally did a poor job of
documenting and packaging our software and supporting
the user group.

Some very good things have happened and we have
an exciting business plan in front of us. You will hear
a lot more about this in March.  One detail is that
we're going to put up the prices of our commercial=20
software quite a lot to focus strictly on Enterprise
customers through a chain of resellers and integrators,=20
and on licensing our formatting technology.

However, we'd like to enable those user group members who=20
might contribute to us to get their hands on ALL of our=20
commercial products at minimal costs, and even to use them=20
in production in certain well-defined situations. =20

We odten find it easier to make documents using our
standard methodology of "RML and Preppy" than in Platypus. =20
Lots of people on this group have said "I'd like to use it=20
but can't afford it" and it would benefit us greatly to
have smart Python programmers reviewing and testing these
products, telling us when the documentation is wrong
and generally testing very widely, as you do with the
open source toolkit.

I suggest creating a "ReportLab Developer Network"
which works as follows

- by application only - complete a web form, and approved
  at our discretion.=20

- annual subscription of $1000-2000 for most users

- open to individuals, small firms, and universities=20
  with enough knowledge of Python not to be a support
  burden to us :-)

- FREE membership for those willing to make a measurable
  and regular contribution e.g. packager/tester on some
  platform, contribute specific features, detailed
  reviewing or contributing to docco.  Note that this
  will need to be "re-earned" each year.  Some key contributors
  will be given membership in respect of work to date.

- receive licensed copies of ALL ReportLab products
  (RML2PDF, Diagra, PageCatcher) for development or internal
  use as well as lots of extra "things we're working on"

- for individuals, tiny firms doing Python work, "good causes"=20
  and universities, we will often grant a production license for=20
  one server or project.  This is the main benefit of joining.
  However, you have to tell us what the intended use is. =20

- email address with guaranteed response and higher priority than=20
  user group=20

- login to our issue tracking system to raise and monitor
  support tasks (yes, this exists and it works, needs a couple
  of days work to be world-ready...)

- a business-oriented mailing list for any users who might class=20
  themselves as "resellers" or "integrators"=20

- structured space to submit examples, tips and so on


Revenue from this will be fairly directly allocated to
those things we have been doing badly:  actually working
on the "core"; support infrastructure improvements;
staff responding to user group enquiries; and ensuring=20
our entire code base (free and commercial) is robust,=20
documented and easy to deploy.  And these things
will benefit across Open Source and commercial products,
since all our commercial products have the open source
tools underneath them.


There are no promises this will happen - we will need board
approval by harder headed people than me - but if we are
going to do it then it must happen by end of March.
The extend to which it delivers is up to you, but if
20 firms joined at say $2000 then we could devote a
full time employee to the above tasks rather than commercial
projects, and make a real difference.

So, please let me know what you think and how this could
be made to work for you...


it-worked-for-MySQL-ly yours,

Andy Robinson
CEO/Chief Architect, ReportLab inc.
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